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Re: [lojban] CLL Corrections

Lojban gives you the choice to be precise or vague. That's what's great about it. If you want to be precise about which place {ke'a} falls into, then just say {ke'a}.

.i lo tcadu noi mi ke'a xabju cu barda mutce
The town which I live in is very big.

But if you want to be vague, just leave it out. It is left up to context then.

.i lo cirla noi mi citka cu kukte mutce
The cheese which I am eating is very delicious.

This is in contrast to English, where you are forced to be precise in places that you don't always care about (e.g. mandatory verb tense, mandatory noun number).

If you look through the usage of Lojban over the past 15 or so years, you'll see that what I've described is how NOI is used.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o


On 7 August 2014 12:53, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 09:07:18AM -0700, TR NS wrote:
> That's my point about the ambiguity. Either it fills x1 or or it fills the
> next available sumiti. There needs to be no "presumption" or "if it is
> clear to the listener". I may have interpreted that sentence differently
> than you too. To me it read that one could presume it was in *any* slot
> other x1 if it made contextual sense to the listener. e.g. if x3 was "clear
> to the listener" they'd could choose that one too. As opposed to the
> interpretation that it meant the "next available slot". Eliminating that
> ambiguity was my point of bringing this up.

Well, the CLL only states it has to be unambiguous in context.
I gave you a syntactically unambiguous version of that interpretation
which describes current usage pretty good.

> Personally I think it makes more sense for it just to always be x1 b/c it
> is easy enough to add `se` or `te` as needed, and I think if fits the
> intent of NOI better.

I consider that malglico. It makes much less sense to assume the relative pronoun
overwrites a place already taken by a sumti than having it fill a vacant slot.

> Consider I want to say "Tom who was a traveler to Baltimore."

la .tom. noi litru la .boltimor.


mu'o

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