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Re: [lojban] Why left-grouping of tanru?



"pretty small" = "smaller than average but not yet extreme".  JCB was making a joke, though with a point.  Of course, 'bilti cmalu' doesn't mean that in Loglan but the grouping is intelligible -- why can't a certain degree of smallness be beautiful?  Why, for that matter, can't a school be beautiful (many are, after all, and in many ways).


On Thursday, September 4, 2014 3:03 PM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:




On Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:26:15 PM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:

Did you see the phrase {lo melbi cmalu nixli ckule}?
It means in a "pretty way small girls' school". This is a clear case of string modifiers one after another.


Yes, but I must be missing your point. If it were right grouped by default it would mean: (pretty (small (girls' school))). Which make sense, though it's unlikely the speaker meant the school was pretty --but that's the meaning. On the other hand left grouping means: (((pretty small) girls') school). Which is almost nonsensical --what's a pretty type-of small?
 
In right grouping it'd be the same. Lojban uses {co} to change the direction:

{lo ckule co nixli co cmalu co melbi}


How does this get grouped?
 
For previous examples:

{lo karce co barda je xunre}.


As you can see you still cannot delete {je}.
One might imagine a language where {je} would be omitted, however, I wonder why {je}, not {jo'u} or {joi} would be chosen for that.

Hmm.. maybe the confusion is that I don't mean putting the "adjective" after the word it modifies. I just mean applying the tenru to the right first.

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