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Re: [lojban] the future of Lojban's leadership



On 9/10/2014 5:57 PM, Jorge Llambías wrote:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder
- LLG <lojbab@lojban.org <mailto:lojbab@lojban.org>> wrote:

      I am pretty sure that I would misuse xorlo, if only because I
    don't know when NOT to use "lo".

It's very easy: always use "lo", you never have to use any other gadri.

Then "lo" is not veridical, and it does not mean what it used to mean. Because sometimes, what I have in mind is NOT what I describe it to be. "The blue house" that I have in mind is actually multicolored, with blue merely distinguishing it from some other house that isn't as obviously (to me) described as "blue"

        I believe And may be thinking of something like "mi nelci le nu
        limna"
        for "I like swimming". The problem with "le" here is that when
        you say
        "I like swimming" you don't have a particular event of swimming
        in mind,
        so why would you use "le"?


    le is not necessarily singular (or plural), but I certainly have
    some concept of what events of swimming (that I am fond of) are, and
    I am, referring to one or more of such events.

With CLL-le you were saying that you like each one of them, right. but
the point is that that's not what "I like swimming" means.

I like each act that I am describing to be an event of swimming, which acts may or may not actually be acts of swimming, and are almost certainly a tiny fraction of all possible events that someone might describe as events of swimming.

Perhaps it's even more clear in the negative: compare  "mi na nelci le
nu limna" vs "I don't like swimming".

Not more clear for the same reason. The events are those that I don't like but am describing as events of swimming.

lojbab

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