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Re: [lojban] the future of Lojban's leadership



On 9/11/2014 12:02 PM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
I can see there are two major camps:
A. Language is frozen in what is both describes in CLL and is used + the
language is at the same time open to backward compatible changes
B. IRC/mailing list usage decides. Everything else has sense only if
doesn't contradict IRC/mailing list usage.


Scenario B completely ignores people who have paid their money to buy
CLL to learn the most described language in the world.

As a temporary solution I can suggest that LLG sells the rest of the
copies of CLL with a small handmade inset "How to use xorlo".

This should have been done in 2003 of course since xorlo is really
backward non-compatible and thus damaged the spread and the development
of Lojban by diverting newcomers.

I think the 1.1 CLL, that Robin is apparently working on, will accomplish a lot of what is needed. We could perhaps come up with a set of change pages for purchasers of the original CLL, though I don't think that anyone will be willing to do the work. Once 1.1 is done, I suspect that many of the proposed changes and additions based on usage can be discussed more rationally, especially if they are submitted with proposed change pages (and we *should* be able to do change pages from 1.1 to 2.0 fairly easily assuming the markup language doesn't change; original CLL was produced from a PDF produced by the then-version of Microsoft Word, and one needs that old proprietary version of Word in order to work with the original).

I suspect that Lojban can live with such a result, which will still be "the most described language in the world", and respect both older users as well as newer ones. If we can essentially stop the prescriptive tweaking with 2.0, the future of the language is probably bright.

That at least is my vision of the moment %^)

lojbab

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