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Re: [lojban] Speaker specificity: {.i da'i na vajni}



Assigning /voi/ to {poi'i} -- excellent stuff! I'm delighted to hear it's being used already. Rereading today some discussion from 12+ years ago, I see {se ka} was also proposed, subject to instigation of a convention for coercing added sumti places by addition of SE or FA.

Is there a list of cmavo recycling proposals? I saw somewhere a proposal to recycle /du/, which I was initially a little consternated by, since {le du} had seemed very useful to me (as meaning unbound "he, she, it, they"), but I guess that could be got by {lo co'e}, with {co'e} meriting a monosyllabic form.

--And.

la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 7:43 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com
<mailto:and.rosta@gmail.com>> wrote:
    I had misremembered {voi}. I mean rather that {le broda} is {lo co'e
    voi'i ke'a broda}, where {voi'i} is nonveridical {noi} (I haven't
    found an existing experimental cmavo for that in jbovlaste, but I
    may have searched with insufficient diligence). {Voi} itself seems
    utterly useless: has it ever been used correctly and meaningfully?

I don't think it has seen much use at all. I'm sure the irci boys will
soon find a better use for it since they seem to be re-purposing all
those wasted one syllable cmavo like "tau", "lau" and such.

I might as well link to http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=new_voi

You might recognize it as being basically {poi'i}, but shorter and without experimental shape. So far it seems there are already a few people who like new-{voi} and are already using it, possibly a bit timidly. I think a lot of potential changes have been prevented through peer-pressure in the past; people are being attacked and/or treated like outcasts when they do something different. I'm sure that if that weren't so, there would have been even more proposals and actual changes in usage (because less fear allows for more creativity).

As for old-{voi}, I agree it's utterly useless.

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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