Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book

[Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>]

On 27 May 2015, at 10:06, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

>> 2015-05-26 22:33 GMT+03:00 Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>:
>> I need someone to help me deal with questions concerning nested quotation, and narrative structure where the narrator interjects into a quotation. The particle “sei" starts a metalinguistic discourse; what ends one?
> 
> In short, the selbri (main verb) itself closes it by the virtue of how its grammar works. You may see something similar for {lo} in {lo broda} and similar constructs that in 90% of cases doesn't need any terminators (markers of the end of constructs).

A few years ago I pointed out that punctuating and capitalizing Lojban in the usual way did not change the language because it was just decorating the text in various ways; if read aloud there should be no difference. (Same as for writing Lojban in Tengwar.)

If the se’u were present, or if whatever followed the 

> However, I'd prefer not nesting {sei}-clauses inside {lu ... li'u} quotes since otherwise if you do want to quote a {sei}-clause you are left with uglier ways of doing so.

"On this point,” said Michael, "I very much agree.”

"On this point, I very much agree,” said Michael.

I think given the structure a good translation for Lojban should avoid these kinds of breaks. Easier for performance (reading aloud with character and narrator voices), too. 

> Also since probably this project aims at selling books I'd prefer replacing all compound words (lujvo) not in the dictionary with their expanded forms to make the reading easier for people still not fluent in Lojban.

One doubts that a Lojban Alice will sell as well as a Latin one. I can say I have often looked things up and not found them in the dictionary. Including very short particles. And in one of the dictionaries I have, “mi” is listed on its own at the end of all the words beginning in mi-. That was odd, or an error, I guess. 

> As for “Victorian” typographic principles those are IMO compatible with Lojban.

Would you like to help with the project? Including possibly “regularizing” the text as suggested above? De-compounding compounds? Restoring balance in terms of “se’u”s?

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

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