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Re: [lojban] {la .alis.} book



On 29 May 2015, at 01:09, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> A pause of indeterminate length is a phoneme?
>>>> 
>>> A pause of indeterminate length is phonetic realization of a phoneme.
>>> 
>> As you wish. I love oddball linguistics. :-)
>> 
> It's hardly as I wish; I think it's moronic. Almost all of the language is other than I would wish it to be.

OK; I don’t know who is happy or unhappy with Lojban. I’m trying to edge towards a particular publication. It appears Gleki is the one who is willing to help me push through.

>>> sei/se'u is regular; it just is regular according to rules less simple than you would prefer.
>> 
>> Well, it does make it impossible to apply punctuation automatically, since the only way that one could do so is to have a script that would parse a variable-lengths string following “sei” to find the word of the selbri class. Not that the application of punctuation is a goal of Lojban.
> 
> Indeed. Your project is somewhat quixotic.

Idealistic and impractical? I don’t know. I think it will make a Lojban look like a language, not like a wall of words. 

> I wish Lojban did less violence to prevailing typographical and orthographical conventions. I hate that sodding apostrophe, that makes the written language so instantly recognizable. But it is what it is, and if it were what I wish it were, it would be an utterly different language.

Lojban is Lojban whether it is written with its current conventions, or in Tengwar, or in my Victorian conventions, or not written at all but only spoken. The same sorts of things can be said about English or Quenya or Chinese. 

Would Polynesian languages be better off without the glottal stop? Maybe. In my editions I make sure that the fonts treat the glottal as larger and more distinct than the regular quotation marks. Looks a lot better.


Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

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