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Re: [lojban] Question about tanru and lujvo invention





2015-12-08 12:27 GMT+03:00 Rui Liu <edenish.fallen@gmail.com>:
Sorry, by cultural accumulation I mean like every major culture would have poem and prose existing through the history, within which a lot of idioms and phrases were created. And that becomes part of the language as well (the most interesting part I think). I didn't expect lojban would reach the same level since it has only a history of less than a hundred years. But I wonder if it's flexible enough to reach it. Except for lujvo, is there other ways to create (long) phrases in lojban?

You probably mean idioms, known as set phrases, idiomatic expressions, phrasal idioms.
In Lojban most of them consist of single words (not only lo lujvo, just any word would do).

I'm not sure that a language is always include set phrases consisting of several words since it's not known what a word is. A language may have a long sentence packed into what looks like a single word (Amerindian, Chukchi languages).



My English might sound a bit strange I guess. Maybe it's better to do it in lojban? Something like klusumji (culture sum)? :)

Lojban has its own culture no matter how small it is. 
It succeeds in discussing what has been successfully discussed in past and fails to represent what users have failed to discuss in it.
Just like with any language.

Similarly to English or other languages. Some things, which are easily expressed by fluent Lojban speakers would be extremely awkward to express in English. I can't show you these examples in English by this very reason.


On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 6:15:58 AM UTC, la gleki wrote:

2015-12-08 2:13 GMT+03:00 Rui Liu <edenish...@gmail.com>:
I just started my exploration in lojban, so I still have I lot of confusion, as well as some suspicion on whether this language can provide at least the same function we have in natural languages

communication? :) Then it certainly happens since fluent speakers of Lojban exist.

, except for cultural accumulation. I don't know if there's a way to analyse one particular language's literary value (in which I'm most interested), but I will keep on my learning and hopefully can answer some of my own questions.


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