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Re: [lojban] Question about tanru and lujvo invention
On 12/8/2015 4:27 AM, Rui Liu wrote:
Sorry, by cultural accumulation I mean like every major culture would
have poem and prose existing through the history, within which a lot of
idioms and phrases were created. And that becomes part of the language
as well (the most interesting part I think). I didn't expect lojban
would reach the same level since it has only a history of less than a
hundred years. But I wonder if it's flexible enough to reach it.
I think that flexibility has already been demonstrated. But it likely
is true that very few phrases have been used enough by different people
to be called "idioms".
On the other hand, any lujvo that has a particular meaning that is not
completely predictable from its components could be called idiomatic. I
would claim that "malglico" and its near relatives are such idioms,
which have acquired some cultural load above and beyond its most basic
interpretation.
There exists poem and prose in Lojban, both translated works and
original ones. Prose translations include Alice in Wonderland and
recently, The Wizard of Oz, but there were translations as far back as
1990, including Saki's short story "The Open Window", and my own
translation of Suzanne Vega's song "Language". Robin Powell has long
been writing a novel in Lojban, and within the last year or two there
has been original poetry and song in Lojban, most notably the several
songs written and published by djemynai.
Except
for lujvo, is there other ways to create (long) phrases in lojban?
Many. lujvo are merely single words that represent a phrase. The
grammar has a variety of phrase structures that can be used (and used
recursively) to make phrases of arbitrary length. Probably the most
used of these are relative phrases/clauses and abstractions.
lojbab
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