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Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
First, let me make it clear that I don't think this is an
important feature. I'm participating in the discussion
because a well-designed unnecessary feature is better
than an ill-designed unnecessary feature.
Here's how I see it:
{fa'ai}: Explicitly opens a new text.
{fa'ei}: Explicitly opens an existing text for appending.
{fa'o}: Explicitly closes the current text.
Both {fa'ai} and {fa'ei} implicitly cause any current text
to be closed as if they had been preceded by {fa'o}.
Lojban utterances that start with neither {fa'ai} nor {fa'ei}
are ambiguous as to whether they start a new text or
append to an existing one. (This is a non-problem.)
But to me, {fa'ei} is incomplete if it does not provide a
way to indicate which existing text will be appended to.
The parameter to {fa'ei} should be a sumti whose referent
points the reader (whether human or machine) to the text
being appended to. I expect that the sumti would usually
refer to the previous speaker. The parameter is either
optional or you have to use {zo'e} if you want to be vague.
The word stream following {fa'ei} is not a text in itself and
thus cannot be parsed on its own. You have to find the
existing text first, append to that, and then reparse.
I don't know what happens to pronouns like {mi} and {do}
when one speaker appends to another speaker's text.
I think {mi} should always refer to the current speaker,
but {do} is a little more problematic.
A: {mi klama lo zarci} + B: {fa'ei a bu fu lo mi karce}
= {a bu klama lo zarci fu lo by karce}
A: {doi by mi klama lo zarci} + B: {fa'ei a bu fu lo do karce}
= ?
Also, in what semantic context should the {fa'ei}
parameter be evaluated? I guess in a "new" context,
whatever that means.
Again, I actually don't think any of this is important.
Maybe I'm just discussing for the sake of discussion.
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- [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Amber Shadow <ambersshadows@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se>
- Re: [bpfk] Re: {.i} and {ni'o}, continuation or new jufra
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>