Re: [bpfk] BPFK work

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You're right. They don't parse as single texts. They also exhibit a practice
> I frown on, and if they didn't follow that practice, they would. So, as far
> as I'm concerned, your point is moot.

OK, so you frown on the standard use of the language as taught in
lojbab's lessons and in CLL. That was my moot point. It's just that
before, you seemed to be disagreeing that that's what you were doing.

Now that we are in agreement about what the official standard is, we
can discuss your reform proposal if you want. But it didn't make sense
to talk about the proposal if we were not even clear on what the
current standard is.

So, with your proposal a speaker can't make a grammatical contribution
to a conversation unless they correct the ungrammatical parts that
went on before, because if they respond with something grammatical by
itself to something ungrammatical, the result will in all likelihood
be ungrammatical. So a relatively safe approach would be to always
start your part of the conversation with "su". That way you don't have
to check if everything said so far parses correctly. (Only "relatively
safe", because in some cases your "su" could be killed by someone
else's dangling "zo", for example, so you still have to be somewhat
careful.)

Another problem I see is, what if someone barges in on an ongoing
conversation? They don't have all the information about what went on
before, so how can they make sure that their contribution will result
in grammatical Lojban? Since their contribution will be automatically
appended to the ongoing conversation, there's no way for them to know
what they are adding to.

No, I still think the rule "new speaker starts new chunk-to-parse" as
default is much more sane.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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