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[lojban-beginners] Re: Tenses in abstractions



Thanks for all the responses.  I think I get it now.  I guess I'd better get to learning FAhA then :)

2010/2/28 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I'm still confused by what "I eat
> the apple an event of me sleeping ago" means.  It doesn't read like any
> english I've ever seen.

My wording was in Jboglish rather than in idiomatic English. I should
have written "ate" rather than "eat", since "ago" goes with a past
tense. It means that my eating the apple is an event of sleeping away
from the origin (which is presumably the time of the utterance). Time
distances are usually given in seconds/minutes/hours/days/etc rather
than in "events of sleeping".

> How do the event of my eating the apple and the
> event of me sleeping relate in time and space according to how I used {za}
> (from your perspective).

The sumti after "za" gives the magnitude of the time displacement.

> Sorry for harping on this, I just want to really understand it.
> Is all of this described in the tag proposal or is this different way of
> using VI/ZA part of some other proposal?  Or is it just how people have been
> using it?

It's independent of the internal grammar of tags. See:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+Distance

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