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Re: [lojban-beginners] ko curmi le nu mi ninpengau do mi



Dnia wtorek, 7 września 2010 o 16:59:39 Alex Rozenshteyn napisał(a):
> It may also be interesting to mention that "polluted by X" and "borrowed
> from X" in this case, mean similar things, and simply ascribe different
> values to them.  I remember reading that lojban takes the some of best
> features known in natural languages.

That's quite apparent... Like concept of topics borrowed from Chinese (and Japanese AFAIK). And I understand that gismu are meant to have as inclusive meaning as possible (it's easier to narrow it down in tanru or lujvo than to expand).

> Why should having a distinction not found in one language be considered
> negative?

Well, it *is* confusing to someone coming from a background where that distinction is made :) I guess people from China would have a lot to say about that ;)

> 4 different ways to give a reason, and several event contours are
> distinctions not found in English, but I find the lojbanisms pleasantly
> different.

Yes, using one word to contain meaning four or five things (subject to conversions) is very powerful.

> Also, question:  I grew up speaking Russian, although I don't know the
> grammar well, but I was under the impression that "cases" referred to the 6
> declensions of a noun,

In Polish it's 7 :) Case is an attribute of nouns, but there are limits to combinations of verbs and cases of nouns.

> while "aspects" refer to something similar to what
> lojban calls event contours.

It would appear so. In Polish AFAIK there are basically two aspects: contnuative ("uczyć się", meaning that the process of learning continues) and cessative ("nauczyć się", meaning that the learning is finished) (if I'm translating correctly). Note that the latter is separate from tense (although it doesn't make sense in present tense) - "nauczyłem się" (in past) and "nauczę się" (in future).
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