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Re: [lojban] The efficacy of Lojban's grammar.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 06:53:53AM -0400, Stela Selckiku wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > When I'm in practice, my statements pass the formal parser
> > (mine, not the official on) on the order of 95 times out of a
> > hundred. I'd wager real money on that.
> >
> > Certainly 8 or 9 out of 10 is true for all the serious speakers
> > on IRC.
>
>
> Agreed!
>
> It's quite easy actually to speak properly parsing Lojban. Most
> of the time it's entirely habitual, not so much using your
> understanding of the grammar directly, but rather
> pattern-recognizing a wide variety of familiar conventional forms.
> It's only rarely that you produce or encounter a sentence shape
> that dips into the complexities of the grammar to find something
> new.
Just for the record, you just agreed with *arosta*, not with me. :)
I was asserting that people actually *do* use the formal grammar
internally, and you're asserting you don't.
I'm OK with being an exception on this, though, as long as what
people say still parses. :)
> For instance I'm reminded of my recent joy at the phrase "lo melbi
> ko li'i cerni" (have a beautiful morning, or literally, be the
> experiencer of a beautiful experience of a morning).
Oh, that *is* quite neat.
-Robin
--
They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
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