Re: [lojban] What gets into 'lo broda'

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:46 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, so I am not getting it.  'lo cimei be lo broda' is not some trios out of lo broda but just a trio out of lo broda, not in any sense different from (what used to be written as) 'ci lo broda'.

"ci lo broda" is an incomplete expression. It is an operator lacking
its operand. It means "three and only three of the referents of 'lo
broda' are such that: ..."

"lo cimei be lo broda", on the other hand, is a referring expression.
Its referents, whatever they are, are three of the referents of "lo
broda". It is equivalent to "lo ci lo broda".

The distinction between an operator with scope over a bridi, and a
simple referring expression is important.

> So how do we get references to cases of several selection, each of them a trio, say?

By quantifying over gunma/girzu/bende etc instead of over brodas. "re
gunma be ci lo broda" is "two groups of three of the brodas are such
that: ...". (If you like using "loi" or "lu'o" as shorthand for "lo
gunma be", I don't mind, but I prefer to spell it out.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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