Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

Ok, maybe a better example.  {kelcygau} vs. {kelcyri'a}.  If I buy two kids a checkerboard, I am in effect causing them to play.  This is a different thing from actually doing the playing myself.  Causing an event is different from "do"ing an event (i.e. participating in it), is it not?  Or maybe that's where the difference between {zukte} and {gasnu} comes in (not that I've ever really understood that distinction).

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:38 PM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7 May 2010 20:23, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

hmm, I've often wondered about that.  What exactly is the difference between {cikygau} and {cikyri'a}?

For example:

 mi cikygau do fi'o cikri'a lo junla
 I do your being woken up by a clock.

{mi} prepares the clock so that it wakes {do} up, hence the agent of {do}'s waking up.

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