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Re: [lojban] beyond good and evil



Really?  Where do you see that the x1 can be properties?  jbovlaste says:

Word: vrude [jbovlaste]
        Type: gismu
  Gloss Word: virtue
  Gloss Word: virtuous
       rafsi: vud vu'e
  Definition: x1 is virtuous/saintly/[fine/moral/nice/holy/morally good] by
       standard x2.
       Notes: Holy/saintly (= cesyvu'e).  Virtue the attribute is "ka
       vrude".

Note the "Notes".  From what you're saying about the book, it sounds like the title is talking about the ideas of virtue and evil, not people who behave virtuously/evily.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8 July 2010 11:02, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com> wrote:


2010/7/7 Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>

In the end I think I like {bancu lo kamvrude jo'u lo kampalci} best.

I think here can be only 1 NU: «bancu lo NU vrude jo'e palci».

Did you mean "jo'u"? I don't think it's about "jo'e", a union of sets.

In the book Nietzsche denies that there is a universal morality that distinguishes "good" and "evil", critiquing previous philosophers who were seeing these as two distinct categories of behaviour. The title addresses these two items which Nietzsche sees as false and as forming a false dichotomy (and what he is arguing for is to be found as "bancu"s x1). In order for him to address the problem, he would need two "lo".

"vrude" and "palci"s x1s can be qualities, so "kamvrude" and "kampalci" or "lo nu ..." seem unnecessary. I like xorxes' "bancu lo vrude jo'u lo palci".

mu'o mi'e tijlan

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