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Re: [lojban] Illogical English Sign



I get what you're saying.  I'm gonna go back and read the CLL again.  Clearly it is time for a re-read.  co'o

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Timo Paulssen <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
On 08/06/2010 09:09 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:
> ok, so forgetting the fatci bit, you're saying that these two
> following bridi are different?
>
> 1)  mi na kakne lo nu tolmo'i lo du'u do tolmo'i
> 2)  mi na kakne lo nu tolmo'i lo du'u do tolmo'i makau
>
> I read {lo du'u do tolmo'i} as {lo du'u do tolmo'i zo'e} and the way
> I understand {zo'e} is that it can be anything (including makau).  So
> I see 2 as being a more specific version of 1.  Am I wrong here?

This totally goes against my understanding of kau. In my opinion, zo'e
can never be "ma kau", because kau alters the basic semantic structure
of the sentence to such an extent that no other simple sumti could.

{mi na kakne lo nu tolmo'i lo du'u do tolmo'i } == I can't forget, that
it is true, that you forgot.
{mi na kakne lo nu tolmo'i lo du'u do tolmo'i ma kau} == I can't forget,
what it was, that you forgot.

mu'o mi'e la timos noi se cfipu

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