Re: [lojban] nu pa moi se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u lu'u

[Alan Post <alanpost@sunflowerriver.org>]

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 07:38:57PM +0200, Krzysztof Sobolewski wrote:
> Dnia poniedziałek, 27 września 2010 o 19:18:18 Alan Post napisał(a):
> > The one of these you are interested in is here:
> > 
> >   http://dag.github.com/cll/18/11/
> 
> Ah indeed, ki'e.
> 
> > I personally think it could use a bit of fleshing out, it glosses
> > over a lot very fast.
> 
> Yeah, no wonder I didn't remember it...
> 
> "It is perfectly possible to use non-numerical sumti after "me" and before a member of MOI, producing strange results indeed:"
> 
> Is it "perfectly possible" because there's no way to prevent it with grammar itself, i.e. it's a bug that became a feature? ;) Because I still don't have an idea what {me mi moi} would mean (me-th?).

You can compose the meaning by looking at the definition of me and
moi:

me:

  x1 is a mass formed from the set x2 of n members,
  one or more of which is/are x3

moi:

  x1 is the (n)th member of set x2 when ordered by rule x3 [by standard x4]

So one could take {me mi moi} to be:

  x1 is a member of the mass of those things that are mine.
  
I've been thinking about it like giving a name/description to a set,
rather than counting the element of a set number-wise.

Other intrepretation is most certainly welcome!  It doesn't seem accidental,
as a special rule was made for it.

-Alan
-- 
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

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