Re: [lojban] Another comic (Again!)

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/11/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Michael Turniansky
>> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd say "bi'i", not "ji'i".
>>
>> I never remember whether "PA bi'i PA" is supposed to be an interval,
>> some value in that interval, or either. If you use "bi'i" you should
>> probably move the "su'e too: "(re) bi'i (su'e ci)".
>
> Actually, I had the same question about your formulation -- how do you
> know it right-groups into su'e (re ji'i ci)? (assuming that's how you
> were reading it.

My reading is (su'e re) (ji'i ci), which means something like "at most
two, perhaps three".

When joining two intervals, the rule I use is: If the intervals
intersect, it's the intersection, if not, it's the union. So in this
case it's some value in the union of "at most two" and "around three".

The intersection rule is useful for intervals like "su'o ci su'e xa",
"between three and six", and things like that.

But my doubt about "bi'i" was not really about the position of "su'e"
but about the meaning of "re bi'i ci". Is that "some value between two
and three", or is it "the interval from two to three". For sumti, I
think bi'i gives the interval rather than some value in the interval,
but for operands I don't know whether that ever makes sense.

>  But yes, I agree.. tell me how to do it?  vei/ve'o?

I don't think you need vei/ve'o with "li", but you would if you wanted
to use it as a quantifier.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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