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Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation



Yeah, my understanding of kau has never been very solid though it seems really handy.  It's a shame that I don't /really/ get it. 

Yeah, I guess paunai makes more sense.  Though I though that it marked that a question was to follow (or not with nai).  Is it ok to say paunai to say that the /preceding/ question isn't really a question at all?

On Nov 27, 2010 8:20 PM, "Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Now that I've remembered the absurdly useful "kau", my understanding of
>> da'oi is that it is basically a shortcut for ... peikau doi...  e.g.  "do
>> flira farlu .oiro'o da'oi la .nik."  =  "do flira farlu .oiro'opeikau doi la
>> .nik."
>
> Not quite. "da'oi" can be used to express empathy with a third party,
> while "doi" only idenifies your interlocutor. "da'oi" is an expanded
> "dai", such that "dai"="da'oi zo'e".
>
> Also, you may be confusing "kau" with "paunai". "kau" outside of a
> subordinate clause will tell you "whatever the answer to this question
> is", it is not "this is a rhetorical question". So "oipeikau" is more
> like "whether you like it or not, it doesn't really matter what your
> answer is".
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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