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Re: 2011 jbonunsla planning (was Re: [lojban] Semantic Representation of Lojban)
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:23:45PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 02:00:00PM -0700, .alyn.post. wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:48:13PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > Suggestions as to time, and in particular whether it should be
> > > conjoined with an SF convention or just a bunch of Lojbanists in
> > > a room together, would be very welcome.
> > >
> > > I have a mild preference for the latter, but it gets draining
> > > after a while.
> >
> > Being away from my home over May Day is a huge compromise for me,
> > so I have not done it in years past. I've gotten to the point
> > where I'm *willing* to do so, but if I had anything like a choice,
> > I'd pick any other weekend.
>
> I have no attachment to that weekend whatsoever.
>
> > If I have a real for actual choice of weekends, I'll send you my
> > ordered choices.
>
> Sure, you and others should feel free to do that.
>
Here is my ordered list, easiest to accomodate to most difficult to
accomodate. The dates are the weekend, but I can overflow into the
adjoining weekdays:
9-10 Apr 2011
23-24 Apr 2011
7-8 May 2011
11-12 Jun 2011
21-22 May 2011
I kept it to roughly the same time period as previous years.
> > My preference would be to meet specifically for Lojban, I'm not
> > interested in a SF/other convention going on, save as a means for
> > getting people into the Lojban room.
> >
> > As to format, I would love to see an unconference/open space/agile
> > format.
>
> Well, we're talking about less than 12 people, so it tends to be
> pretty loose. Generally we just get together in a room and do
> whatever we feel like. :)
>
> I'd like to have may be a *bit* more structure.
>
A bit more structure than an unconference or a bit more structure
than previous jbonunsla?
> > It is something I understand and am engaged by, but I caveat that
> > I have a specific stack of things I'm interested in talking about,
> > and that format would allow me a platform for doing so.
> >
> > Reviewing the memory of my notes (alas, they aren't in front of
> > me) conference planning suggest we'd need at least two rooms, a
> > break room with food/water and misc discussion/checking out and a
> > topic room for focused and engaged conversation constrained by a
> > timebox.
> >
> > I don't have a sense for the minimum number of people needed to
> > make something like this effective, but my sense is that as we
> > approach or cross that lower bound having an SF convention around
> > us would allow a release for the kind of drain a small participant
> > count would incur. Which means, Lojbanistan, that I need you to
> > come to jbonunsla and save me from that fate!
>
> You seem to know more about this than I do. Perhaps *you* should
> organize it. :)
>
> FWIW, the reason I was talking about the SF Bay Area is that we have
> 4 of us in easy proximity. Given the number of people we're talking
> about, that's pretty overwhelmingly compelling; I'm aware of no
> other part of the world with that many.
>
I'm happy to be involved. When I organize events here, I'm part of a
team, and I know so much about it because I work with a kick-ass group
of people, not because I'm some kind of one-man conference organizer.
Without my team, I'm really only moderately proficient at doing
this. I do have a good understanding of what I'm good at and what
I'm terrible at, however. I'll avoid volunteering for the latter.
I know of only one place that can be used as a venue, and I only
know about it because Willem and Evan used it to host a "Where are
your Keys" workshop in San Franciso:
http://whereareyourkeys.org/2010/01/01/wayk-workshop-in-san-francisco-jan-23rd-and-24th-2010/
Agilistry Studio is the name of the place. I imagine your proximity
will make finding a place easier for you than for me, but here is my
contribution anyway.
-Alan
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.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi
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