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Re: [lojban] non-ka properties



Yes I mean exactly such indirect references, so there are at least two way to 
refer to properties and the side claim that indirect references can in principle 
be replaced by ka-expressions.  I know this is not a very interesting claim, but 
I am trying to get at the point of this discussion, so I am sticking for now 
with what I take is given in its presentation.




----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, June 19, 2011 9:12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] non-ka properties

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:08 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sorry; I should have clarified "in text", there are , of course, properties
> never referred to or not in this corpus, etc. but, if they are referred to at
> all, they are referred to using ka-expressions (or indirectly).

By "indirectly" do you mean things like "lo se ckaji" or "lo jinzi" or
"lo kambra"? I take it a ka-expression is an expression of the form
"LE ka <sentence>", where the sentence contains an explicit or
implicit "ce'u".

If you define ka-expressions as the only direct way to refer to
properties, then of course all properties that are referred to
directly must be referred to by a ka-expression, but that doesn't seem
to tell us much.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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