Re: [lojban] Gerunds, infinitives and other technicalities

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:20 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I consider lifri1 as the theoretical x2 of "fasnu":
>
>  ko'e lifri ko'a <-- ko'a fasnu ko'e
>  kohe experiences koha <-- koha happens to kohe

Do you think an event must necessarily happen TO someone or something,
or can it just happen?

Even languages like English with obligatory syntactic subjects have
expressions like "it's raining", "it was cold", "it's late", and so on
where "it" is just a syntactic filler (much like "zi'o"). Do we really
need to say that those events happen to someone or something?

I think it's a pity that Lojban doesn't have any zero argument gismu
because it helps hide the fact that zero argument predicates are
perfectly reasonable things to have.

And even in a case like "ko'a dunda ko'e ko'i", we can see that as
something experienced by ko'e, something experienced by ko'i, even
something experienced by ko'a who is also the agent. But if we have
those three perspectives available, shouldn't we have a fourth
perspective where it is something that just happens?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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