Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable

[And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>]

Pierre Abbat, On 20/10/2011 20:51:
> On Thursday 20 October 2011 12:32:45 John E. Clifford wrote:
> > Sorry, don"t see how what you say differs from what I say: {pi mu lo plise
> > cu broda} means that a subset of lo plise with half it's cardinality
> > satisfies (in some unspecified -- but hopefully obvious from context  --
> > way) {broda}.
>
> {pimu lo plise} is half of {pa lo plise}. {pimu lo plise cu nenri le tanxe}
> means "half an apple is in the box", not "half of the apples are in the box".

When I was last up-to-date with developments, nothing was official, but I think I can recall the rudiments of our best efforts at that time to construct a consistent and rational gadri system. As far as I now recall, "half an apple" would be "lo pi mu plise", while "pi mu lo plise" would be the "one in every two apples" one.

> I think the correct way to say "half the apples" or "one of every two
> apples", without splitting apples, is "pa lo'e re plise".

Has lo'e received a definition in recent years? In my recollection, it was virtually meaningless. I can see the idea behind the "pa + gadri + re", though it would be a bit cumbersome, tho not necessarily unfitting, to express "22.22% of applies" as not "pi re re re re lo plise" but "re re re re lo'e pa no no no no plise".

--And.

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