Re: Word changing and word creation (was Re: [lojban] bugs in jbovlaste)

Subject: Re: Word changing and word creation (was Re: [lojban] bugs in jbovlaste)

From: MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>

Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 17:21:09 -0400

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stevo

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm afraid no one is really understanding what I'm trying to get across.
With my list, I'm simply saying that a lot of gismu can be "removed"
by virtue of the fact that they're simply an agentive version, a
volitional version, or an implicitly tensed version of another gismu.
A few can be reduced into djuno, and some can almost be eliminated
(ckaji), where as for agentives, lasna is just jorne+BAI, in
particular {gau}. Isn't that what you said was your definition of
synonymous, eyeonous?

On 13 May 2012 01:15, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:01 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Except for arguably cilre/facki, none of those are synonyms.
>>>> I never said they were *synonymous*, I said that they could be reduced
>>>> into one or an other. If one *does* use the more degenerate form, then
>>>> there're additional implications to be handled, such as tense,
>>>> usually.
>>>> Also, I'd say that the difference between "learning" and "finding out"
>>>> is that one requires volition.
>>>> I don't see things like [i mi cilre lo du'u lo mamtymamta cu co'a
>>>> morsi], I see things like [i mi facki lo du'u...].
>>>> Some synonyms:
>>>> mrobi'o and co'amro
>>>> tolyli'a and klamu'o
>>>> ckaji and tolcau
>>>> claxu and tolkai
>>>> binxo and co'arkai
>>>> cliva and klama
>>>> lasna and jongau
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of those aren't gismu, so they don't count, leaving us with only
>>> cliva/klama.Don't respond to something if you're addressing it.
>>
>>
>> Is this supposed to be ".. if you're NOT addressing it"?
>>
>> stevo
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
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