Y'all need to pay more attention to IRC (was Re: [lojban] lujvo for "spelling"? (was Re: [lojban-beginners] How do you write "Eyjafjallajökull"? (a sentence from tatoeba)))

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:01:39AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 12 July 2012 22:54, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 12 July 2012 20:41, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > If by "answered" you're referring to that semantically incorrect use
> > of
> > >> > {tadji},
> > >>
> > >> > then no, you haven't answered it at all. You've told me my solutions
> > >> > are no good, and I've thus made more. I have yet to see you
> > >> > reciprocate that behaviour.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, I've seen no opinion's as to the "semantic correctness" of using
> > tadji
> > > besides your own. To date, no jbocertu has made a comment one way or the
> > > other. Until at least one of them does, I'm going to continue with the
> > > opinion that there is nothing wrong with using tadji to ask how to spell
> > > something.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Talk of our discussion transpired into #lojban. The consensus is that
> > using tadji is wrong or malglico:
> >
> > [11:01] <selpa`i> .i ma tadji lo nu ciska lo vi valsi -- does feel
> > slightly off. Personally I'd use dratai or similar
> > [11:01] <@xalbo> "How do you spell this word?" as {tadji} feels malgli
> > to me. I very much prefer {ma lerpoi zo broda} (or whatever)
> > [11:02] <selpa`i> See we all agree :)
> > [11:02] < @xalbo> If the answer is "With a pen", then you're asking
> > the wrong question.
> >
> 
> "To date, no jbocertu has made a comment one way or the other."
> 
> This statement is still true.

0___o

You need to do some research before you say things like that.

xalbo has been jbocre nearly as long as I have, and is in my top 3
list of people to go to when I myself am confused.

As for selpa'i and tsani ... Umm, if you think they're not jbocre,
you need to spend a lot more time in IRC.  A huge segment of the
community is there chatting reams of Lojban every day.
http://www.lojban.org/resources/irclog/lojban/2012_01/2012_01_01.txt
-- that's *one day*, and it's more Lojban from each of them than
I've ever seen you generate.

I would think twice, personally, before arguing with any of them
about this sort of thing.

And, no, tadji is really not appropriate here; tadji would be
something like {lo nu lamji cusku ro lerfu cu tadji lo nu valci
skicu}, i.e. "I speak each letter in sequence" is a tadji, the
sequence of letters is not.

-Robin

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