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Re: [lojban] Translating "as"

Vlasisku is back up, for me at any rate.

The best generic "role" BAI I can find is ci'e, which is the ciste modal.

Looking up "role" or its synoyms "function"and "faculty" finds nothing useful.

"Occupation" and "job" both find jibri, but they aren't close enough to the sense of "role" for this purpose.

Based on my 5-minutes of research, it seems we might need to make a new word, and I don't think we can get the desired meaning with lujvo, so that leaves fu'ivla or gismu.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
Am 05.11.2012 22:37, schrieb selpa'i:

All these uses of "as" have one thing in common: They talk about the
role something has in a situation, or in what way something presents
itself to the situation. I feel like there should be a uniform solution,
whatever it may be.

Figuring out what exactly it means in English is the first step. I don't know what exactly it means at its core, otherwise finding a lojban equivalent would be easy.

Two more examples:

(5) Lojban as a foreign language.

(6) "Express" as a noun also exists, but has a different meaning.

Here, the "role" character of this construction comes out quite clearly in my opinion, so maybe this is the right direction...

Something like a BAI like "... with role" / "... in role" / "in it's role as".

Which means that all that's needed is the right brivla and we're done.


mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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