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Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban

Le samedi 1 décembre 2012 01:03:26 UTC+1, entot a écrit :
It's not a question of if the default language is English or not. It's a question of whether we present a Lojban-only page to a newcomer. I think showing a Lojbanic interface and Lojban-only content to a newcomer is not friendly.
(I guess its 'friendlier' than piping interested people through English when it isn't necessary.)
 

If the primary language is Lojban, are you, doi la gleki. .e la .iesk., fine with importing all the pages from TWiki to LMW? Lots of them are in English.

Since I have so far not contributed anything useful to LMW, my opinion does not weigh much.

I repeat that my idea of the wiki was that there be no 'primary language' for content pages. Everybody would write pages in the language(s) of their preference. I don't think it likely that there will be systematic translations of all LMW pages in all LMW languages (whichever that may be). Most content will probably be in English anyway (TWiki imports included), who would translate all that stuff? So why not have a page in, say, French, link to relevant pages in, say, English, Lojban, …  I have been arguing *against* any primary language, because that would, to my understanding, mean that you have to write (or wait for somebody to write) a page about 'broda' in the primary language before you can add a page about 'broda' in the language that you want.

 

ni'o

I'm holding off any work I said or hinted I'd be doing (working on the community portal and migrating) until I get a clear picture of what the site organization is going to be [1]:

* Who is the target audience?
* What content will it have, in what language?

As far as I understand, there are two interests at hand:

* Target audience: Lojban speakers
* Content: Anything in Lojban? / Translation projects, Lojbanic writings, Lojbanists index

* Target audience: Lojban learners
* Content: Learning materials in English and other languages around the world

I naïvely thought of a home for all things Lojbanic. ;)
 

If this is the case, I think it's not out of the question to maintain two separate wikis for each: lojban.org and ckule.lojban.org. In MediaWiki, there is a way to share the extensions folder and such to lessen the admininstrative task. If there are corresponding pages between the two, they can be linked to each other in the way Wikipedia links pages in other languages.

Any thoughts?

[1] This is partly an excuse to focus my time on helping CLL1.1; I'm not a good multitasker.

mu'o

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