On Sunday, December 2, 2012 1:10:34 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:Earlier today I was having a technical issue with translating -- basically, after editing and saving a "message" in the translation interface, a dialog box would pop up with a "tpt-unknown-page" error. However, now the problem has disappeared and translating works again, so I'm not sure what caused it.Another problem, as I try to add a new page, is that I can't upload images (specifically, I'm trying to add standard Wikimedia message box images, such as the "!" information bubble and a pencil-and-paper icon). Upon clicking the "Upload" button at the bottom, I get:Upload Warning: Could not create directory "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/7/7e".Many people seem to think that it's a problem with folder write permissions. There is discussion here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Trouble_uploading_after_installationThe fact is that those directories have already been 777-ised. Earlier we could upload images. I really don't know what happened.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/-zJ25Ymxw20J.--(The same type of error message came up for both .svg and .png files.)mu'o
On Saturday, December 1, 2012 4:34:58 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
On Saturday, December 1, 2012 1:18:15 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:Le samedi 1 décembre 2012 01:03:26 UTC+1, entot a écrit :It's not a question of if the default language is English or not. It's a question of whether we present a Lojban-only page to a newcomer. I think showing a Lojbanic interface and Lojban-only content to a newcomer is not friendly.(I guess its 'friendlier' than piping interested people through English when it isn't necessary.)
If the primary language is Lojban, are you, doi la gleki. .e la .iesk., fine with importing all the pages from TWiki to LMW? Lots of them are in English.
Since I have so far not contributed anything useful to LMW, my opinion does not weigh much.
I repeat that my idea of the wiki was that there be no 'primary language' for content pages. Everybody would write pages in the language(s) of their preference. I don't think it likely that there will be systematic translations of all LMW pages in all LMW languages (whichever that may be). Most content will probably be in English anyway (TWiki imports included), who would translate all that stuff? So why not have a page in, say, French, link to relevant pages in, say, English, Lojban, … I have been arguing *against* any primary language, because that would, to my understanding, mean that you have to write (or wait for somebody to write) a page about 'broda' in the primary language before you can add a page about 'broda' in the language that you want.
Unfortunately I have no idea of a mechanism of creating a wiki without any primary language. And LMW is after all a linguistic project. The core of Lojbanistan is Lojban which is a language. Anyway LMW-contributors must know at least some basic lojban. This will be enough to create new pages in simple lojban first and then creating it's "translation" in another language e.g. English.UPDATE:I already noticed first attempts of spamming in LMW from anonymous users. Threrefore
ConfirmEdit extension installed to prevent spamming. ReCaptcha mode activated for new users. It makes us dependent on third-party ReCaptcha service, but it's the simplest solution.
ni'oI'm holding off any work I said or hinted I'd be doing (working on the community portal and migrating) until I get a clear picture of what the site organization is going to be [1]:* Who is the target audience?* What content will it have, in what language?As far as I understand, there are two interests at hand:* Target audience: Lojban speakers* Content: Anything in Lojban? / Translation projects, Lojbanic writings, Lojbanists index* Target audience: Lojban learners* Content: Learning materials in English and other languages around the world
I naïvely thought of a home for all things Lojbanic. ;)
If this is the case, I think it's not out of the question to maintain two separate wikis for each: lojban.org and ckule.lojban.org. In MediaWiki, there is a way to share the extensions folder and such to lessen the admininstrative task. If there are corresponding pages between the two, they can be linked to each other in the way Wikipedia links pages in other languages.Any thoughts?[1] This is partly an excuse to focus my time on helping CLL1.1; I'm not a good multitasker.mu'o
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