LMW. The current vision.Who, stereotypically, will visit the wiki page? I want ordinary people from all over the world to visit it as opposed to the old one for geeks.Therefore, just anyone with no experience in linguistics/programming/logic.Imagine tokipona users. Or imagine childrenRight now the main page is very factual. Obviously it just the content from the old wiki.But this audience, they want to see Lojban right away. Here it, experience it.Like a big "coi do fi'i" banner.We should provide a lot of supporting english/mandarin/etc. and comfort, because the first time a new user sees Lojban they're going to be intimidated and afraid of it.
And they're going to want comfort and translation and joy in seeing something and knowing what it means.May be a menu (instead of this ralju ckupau) where users can choose their language?
Like here http://www.wikipedia.org/?What is your opinion, friends?If you are ready to show us something please do that in the wiki itself by creating other test pages with your experiments. Relinking the default LMW page to yours won't be a problem once we agree how to present Lojban for masses.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/HweOZyKidzsJ.
On Monday, December 17, 2012 9:21:01 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:ki'e gleki .i ku'i za'o simlu lo ka spofu .i sa'e za'o cusku la'o gy. HTTP Error 500 gy. ca lo nu mi troci co rejgau lo ckupau--Thanks, gleki, but it still seems to be broken. It's still saying "HTTP Error 500" when I try to save a page containing a widget invocation code.mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
On Monday, December 17, 2012 11:57:40 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:41:26 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:Also, the
$IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/folder should be made writable by the web server. See Making a directory writable by the webserver. The compiled templates folder is where Smarty stores pre-compiled templates.^ ^ I can't do that. Waiting for Robin to reply (privately, not here)Robin hasnt replied yet. So i just patched Widgets extension and changed the path from "$IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/" to "$IP/htmlets/"Check whether you can use Widgets now.
On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:33:31 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:Well, I was able to create widgets in the Widget:* namespace. However, when I add widget code to an article (something along the lines of "{{#widget:Google Maps|...|...}}"), I can't preview or save the page that I am editing; the server returns a "500" error.The same problem occurred with Widget:Google Maps and Widget:YouTube, so I don't think it's a problem with the widget source code. When a page doesn't contain the {{#widget:...}} code, it saves without any trouble.The 500 error doesn't give any specific information for me, so I don't know what causes it. There might be a problem with folder write permissions, but otherwise I couldn't get any useful information from a Google search.mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
On Friday, December 14, 2012 1:49:04 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:UPDATE.
Widgets 1.9.2 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widget) extension installed.Plese, check if you can use it to embed Google maps etc.BTW how to say "update", "version" and "synchronise" in Lojban????
On Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:41:35 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:
On Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:13:38 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:.u'uApparently that didn't work the way I thought it would work. Now it's back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits to translations for some reason, and triggering the "Saving failed" popup.Here are the pages that led me to believe it would work:http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit (talks about the $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace variable)//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces (says the default namespace for "Translations:" is NS_TRANSLATIONS)
If you can't think of a reason why it didn't work, I guess we should revert back to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false;UPDATE.
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false;Another option would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous edits.how to do that?mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:UPDATE.
The following strings have been changed to:
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true;$wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false;
to ki'e doi vruxir toiOn Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:24 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:It also looks like you can do this:$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true;$wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false;Then, edits on basic pages will require reCAPTCHA, but edits to translations will not require reCAPTCHA.(To the best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki will be slightly more secure that way).mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:I changed the value of $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false.
The current values are$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false;$wgCaptchaTriggers['create'] = true;$wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl'] = false;$wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] = true;$wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin'] = true;
What needs to be changed or added?
On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote:On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir <kex...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the reCAPTCHA. I have
> been able to work around it by doing this:
>
> Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation Messages
> table -- for example, the link that looks like "Translations:jbobau
> selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can edit that
> section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show the
> required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save Page".)
>
I got it, thanks!
> I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each translation section
> in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think of is to
> disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix "Translations:";
> hopefully that is possible.
>
> mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote:
>>
>> Translation pages fail in saving.
>>
>> I go translate a page
>>
>> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=page-jbobau+selci%27a&language=ja&limit=100&task=view
>> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups and says
>> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this problem.
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