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Re: [lojban] Robin retry: commands.



On Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:48:23 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:30 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:10:54 PM UTC+4, Betsemes wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:38 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have already seen the poor usage of {rei}.
>
> Where?

In a corpus search.

>> What are prohibitives? At face value it sounds like: "reinai ko broda"
>> (I forbid you to do/be broda). Is this what it means. As I guess it
>> is, it's just a command for not doing something, and thus pointless.
>> Could you enlighten me?
>
> Yes, for me it's just [COMMAND]-nai.

So {reinai ko broda) = {rei ko na broda} Hmmm, I think it's as
pointless as the current meaning of {e'onai}.

In case of doubts we should always  change back to {sei broda}.

{*rei=sei minde}

I hope someone can make the full list of translations.

Because sometimes {nai} acts like {to'e}, sometimes like {na'ei}.

Why are you using an experimental cmavo that means the same thing as na without the logical negation?

Ok ok . May be it's just {na} . I don't know. I just wish we had jbo => translations of all UI including negated ones.
 

>> So then, how a cmavo for commands would be defined?
>>
>> rei attitudinal: command - ????
>
> I suppose "command - command not to do".
> The second one is called prohibitive but I can't define it as a prohibition
> as the latter has several meanings.

How about this? "command - obedience optional"

Now I have a question. May a suggestion be called "obedience optional"
and be stated as a command? If so, then that's {e'u}, but {e'u} is
paired with "warning". Personally, I think there is a difference
between "obedience optional" and "suggestion". I cannot precisely
explain it, I just feel it.

mu'o mi'e betsemes

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