Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Betsemes <betsemes@gmail.com> wrote:

xorlo definition of {la}:
la (LA)
Name article. It converts a selbri, selecting its first argument, or
any string of cmevla into a sumti. The resulting _expression_ refers
specifically to an individual or individuals that the speaker has in
mind and which the speaker names with the selbri or cmevla. An inner
quantifier can be used (in the case of a selbri) as part of the name.
An outer quantifier can be used to quantify distributively over those
individuals.

That's not terribly clear. On one hand it says that {la} selects the
first argument, which to me means the first argument is the name and
not the selbri itself. On the other hand it says that the selbri
itself is the name ("...the speaker names with the selbri...").

The name is the selbri, but there is a sense in which the first argument is selected, as with other gadri. In Spanish we have the names "Amado" and "Amador". We could "translate" these as "la selpa'i" and "la prami". 

 

Since
this last idea makes better sense, to me at least, I'll have to side
with John Clifford's position as well.

It's the only tenable position.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

 

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