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Re: [lojban] "we" and masses. A bug in the CLL?



So, {lo za'u cusku be dei }.  {no'u} just sounds wrong;it is not an identity, merely a predication, probably {poi}.  For the rest it is over specification in that these other things may or may not be included.  {lo} does it's usual selection job in context.  In particular, lo na'e cusku are not to be included, by the nature of the gadri. 

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On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:31, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:



On Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:16:50 PM UTC+4, clifford wrote:
I thought I just did. 


Where is {dei}  in {lo za'u cusku}. Does "we" include only those who speak or those to whom something is spoken? No.

"we" is either {mi no'u za'umei} or {mi jo'u da poi prenu gi'e na'e cusku be dei gi'e na'e te cusku be dei}


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On Jun 20, 2013, at 0:47, la arxokuna <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:19:41 PM UTC+4, clifford wrote:
Oops!  I probably should have said {na'i} (false dichotomy) since "we" is actually neither.  It is, however, contextual, "the salient group of the speaker and associate(s)", exactly {lo za'u cusku}, I I think.


Do you think you can give a precise definition of {zo'oi we} in Lojban?

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