Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

A few comments on some x3's that caught my attention:

(1) What would be an example of a scale in dukti3?

I think dukti3 will usually be a property with kau:

  ko'a ko'e dukti lo ka ce'u jinvi ma kau

  ko'a ko'e dukti lo ka ce'u cinse fi ma kau 

(ignoring the messiness of the "cinse" place structure)

  ko'a ko'e dukti lo ka ce'u zvati lo mo kau mlana be lo klaji

  ko'a ko'e dukti lo ka ma kau farna ce'u

  ko'a ko'e dukti lo ka ce'u dikca fi ma kau

and so on. Are those scales?

  
(2) You have "klani" backwards. x2 is the number, x1 is the thing, as in all other measure words. "klani" is the generic measure word.

  ko'a klani li ci lo ka xo kau da bruna ce'u

  ko'a klani li pa pi mu lo ka ce'u citka lo xo kau plise 

  ko'a klani li mu lo ka ce'u xo roi klama lo zdani be mi

and so on. So, can we say that scales are property+kau? If so, then a lot more places should be marked as "scale", all the comparatives for example.

(3) If lidne3 is something like a lerfu2, I don't think it's a plural:

  ko'a lidne ko'e lo latmo selyle'u

(4) ckini1 and ckini2 can be of any type. "ckini" is the two-place equivalent of "ckaji", they are completely general.

(5) Why is cimni3 (quantity)? Is that the same as (number)? (I think cimni3 should be dropped though)

Not sure why length and width are specifically mentioned in the definition of cimni, since cimni2 can be any property, not just a spatial dimension.

(6) I would have expected parbi1 (number), parbi2 (any type), parbi3 (any type). Isn't parbi1 the number of parbi2 divided by the number of parbi3? 

(7) Why is lerfu3 a "location"? Isn't it normally a sound/phoneme? And that mysterious "concept" shows up again.

(8) ciska3 and tcidu3 "medium" is a role right, not a type?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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