On Jan 1, 2008 2:49 AM, <
mungojelly@ixkey.info> wrote:
Let's take an example at random: zo xanka. The meat of the definition
in the gismu list consists of only the English words "nervous" and
"anxious." That gives me a vague idea, but those are two English
words with substantially different meanings, there are words from
every language in that area each with a variation on that meaning, and
presumably Lojban's meaning is identical to none of these and has its
own internal character.
The place structure has three places. The first is the person
experiencing the emotion, which is simple enough. The second is
defined, if we can call it that, by only the preposition "about", and
the suggestion that it ought to be filled by an abstraction. The
third place is defined as saying what "conditions" the event of xanka
happens "under." Well excuse me if I am more mystified than before!
Other emotion gismu such as badri, gleki, terpa, nelci, xebni, prami
are all two places, and I have no idea why zo xanka gets a third, or
what on earth the distinction is between the abstraction someone is
nervous about and the conditions under which they are nervous.
I know you picked this example "at random", but let me try you with this example using all 3 places:
la meris xanka lo nu selkavbu loi pulji kei lo nu tolselfla ke sutra litru
--gejyspa