[lojban-beginners] di'e gimsnu be zo xanka, was Re: the black hole of keyworditis

[mungojelly@ixkey.info]

Quoting Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>:

> I know you picked this example "at random", but let me  try you with this
> example using all 3 places:


I had a feeling that if I chose a gismu and pointed out how vague the  
definition was, it would provoke a gimsnu.  That's exactly my point,  
that there is nothing between us and increased clarity about these  
meanings except for provoking a discussion, goi fo'a, and recording  
that discussion in a way which benefits future generations of  
learners, goi fo'e.  Fo'a happens regularly anyway, though an argument  
could be made that it should be stimulated a little-- at one gismu a  
week it would take 27 years to touch upon all of them-- but fo'e is  
where we're really failing entirely at the moment.


> la meris xanka lo nu  selkavbu  loi  pulji kei lo nu tolselfla ke sutra
> litru

(Mary is nervous about being caught by the police, while speeding.)

So it seems like what you're suggesting is that a terxanka is a  
situation in which there is something to worry about, and the selxanka  
is the negative consequence which could result from the terxanka.

One thing I wonder about is whether there's an implication that the  
terxanka is a real situation.  That is, you could be explicit by  
putting a "da'i" or a "da'inai" in the terxanka bridi, but which is  
more likely to be implied (absent a clear context)?  It seems like  
"nervous" angles towards "da'inai," a real situation provoking a  
specific response, while "anxious" would suggest to me more "da'i", a  
sort of situation in which someone tends to react with anxiety.

ki'e doi gejyspa .i mi nelci lonu ma'a gimsnu .ui.auro'ebe'u

mu'o mi'e doi bret.