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[lojban-beginners] Re: di'e gimsnu be zo xanka, was Re: the black hole of keyworditis





On Jan 1, 2008 12:15 PM, <mungojelly@ixkey.info> wrote:

> la meris xanka lo nu  selkavbu  loi  pulji kei lo nu tolselfla ke sutra
> litru

(Mary is nervous about being caught by the police, while speeding.)

So it seems like what you're suggesting is that a terxanka is a
situation in which there is something to worry about, and the selxanka
is the negative consequence which could result from the terxanka.
 
Ummm... not exactly.  I'm suggesting that the selxanka is something that is worrying/troubling a person, and terxanka is under what circumstances such anxiety takes/could take place (see below).   

One thing I wonder about is whether there's an implication that the
terxanka is a real situation.  That is, you could be explicit by
putting a "da'i" or a "da'inai" in the terxanka bridi, but which is
more likely to be implied (absent a clear context)?  It seems like
"nervous" angles towards "da'inai," a real situation provoking a
specific response, while "anxious" would suggest to me more "da'i", a
sort of situation in which someone tends to react with anxiety.

  I believe that all bridi that specify a "under conditions" place (xanka, pluta, zifri, frili, nandu, etc.) are making no truth claims about the presence/absence about those conditions, but are merely qualifying that these are the situations where X1 _would be_ xanka,etc.  So Mary is anxious about being caught by police WERE she to speed.  Donald Trump is worried about where his next meal is coming from IF he were poor, etc.  Without that place specified, it implies the person is xanka, etc. at whatever time and/or place narrowed down by the tenses, or else generally xanka, etc.

               --gejyspa