On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:Perfect! Do you have a link to it? The only page I found on the wiki is this: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/seljvajvo
I do not. As I said, I didn't bother looking. All I can tell you is that it's in Chapter 12, which that page also tells you, and that it is basically exactly what I told you, albeit not as condensed.
Some part of it is at http://dag.github.com/cll/12/7/:A symmetrical lujvo like “balsoi” (from Section 5) has the places of its tertau followed by whatever places of the seltau survive the elimination process. For “balsoi”, the surviving places of “banli” are b2 and b3, leading to the place structure:
7.4) b1=s1 is a great soldier of army s2 in property b2 by standard b3
Asymmetrical lujvo like “gerzda”, on the other hand, employ a different rule. The seltau places are inserted not at the end of the place structure, but rather immediately after the tertau place which is equivalent to the first place of the seltau. Consider “dalmikce”, meaning “veterinarian”: its veljvo is “danlu mikce”, or “animal doctor”. The place structures for those gismu are:
7.7) “danlu”: d1 is an animal of species d2
“mikce”: m1 is a doctor to patient m2 for ailment m3 using treatment m4
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )