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Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo)



2010/10/5 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Doesn't the CLL talk somewhere about how making monday be 1 works for all
> cultures because sunday can be day 0 or day 7.

It might, I don't exactly remember. What do YOU think (about the
issue, not about what CLL says)? How well would "mumdei" work for
"Friday" for someone whose word for "Thurday" is something like "fifth
day". Or for a Swahili speaker, whose word for Wednesday is something
like "fifth day". I don't really know, because in the languages I know
the weekdays are not called by numbers, but my guess is that switching
from one number to a different number could be quite confusing,
independently of whether Sunday is day 0 or day 7.

> Personally that's how I
> remember weekday names in lojban anyway, I call sunday nondei.

Right, you don't have any interference from English, which doesn't use
numbers to name the days of the week. I don't have interference from
Spanish either. I'm just speculating on what people who do have
inteference from their native language would think about this.

> I don't really care what the system is for naming days but it seems like
> they should be sequential in some way in stead of seemingly random names.
>  e.g. I prefer pavmasti to vormasti

Any numerical sequence is unfortunately going to be in conflict with
some languages, because there are three different numerical systems in
use.

We can just say we don't care, we'll go with the ISO norm and if that
is horribly confusing for speakers of some languages, so be it, not
our problem.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

Works for me. I can see how people who are native to number-using languages that don't start monday=1-day could be confused, but I somehow doubt that someone from those languages who is serious about learning the language would change their mind because of it.

In any case, until we decide on a single scheme and use it exclusively, which seems much more important to me than exactly what that system is, I'd say any discussion about such confusions is moot.

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