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Re: [lojban] Attitudinal scales and the meaning of {cu'i}

>> As you say xorxes, I think the fact that "zero relaxation" sounds kind of
>> like "impatience" is an affect of malglico mindset.

> Did I really say that?

I assumed that that was what you were getting at when you said: 
"The wording "zero X" does not seem to
capture their meaning in most cases, but that may be just a failure of
the English idiom "zero X". "Zero patience" suggests impatience, not
"o'o cu'i", "zero relaxation" suggests stress, not "o'u cu'i", and so
on."

If the concept of "zero patience" implies "impatience" (to'e patience) in english, and if that is influencing our understanding of what {.o'ocu'i} means then that is malglico is it not?

2010/5/10 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a suspicion that if a person were brought speaking lojban only, they
> would probably understand ".o'ocu'i" to mean the same thing that we would
> put in a dictionary for it.

That suggests that a Lojban-Lojban dictionary may not need to define
them. But we have been considering Lojban-English dictionaries.

> I think probably everyone in this discussion
> (myself certainly included) is being influenced by the fact that our native
> languages do not have attitudinals.

All languages have attitudinals, even if not as tidy or systematic as
Lojban tries to. English "Wow!" is an attitudinal, for example.

> I think that a Xcu'i emotion would be
> easily intuited by a person who is fluent or a person whose first language
> was lojban.

By definition of fluency, that must be so.

> As you say xorxes, I think the fact that "zero relaxation" sounds kind of
> like "impatience" is an affect of malglico mindset.

Did I really say that?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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