Re: [lojban] Illogical English Sign

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

Ok, I see what you're saying.  The second one adds more information so that we know more specifically what it is that I can't forget.

2010/8/6 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> ok, so forgetting the fatci bit, you're saying that these two following
> bridi are different?
> 1)  mi na kakne lo nu tolmo'i lo du'u do tolmo'i
> 2)  mi na kakne lo nu tolmo'i lo du'u do tolmo'i makau

Yes.

> I read {lo du'u do tolmo'i} as {lo du'u do tolmo'i zo'e} and the way I
> understand {zo'e} is that it can be anything (including makau).

Of course there are situatons in which (1) and (2) could both be true.

> So I see 2
> as being a more specific version of 1.  Am I wrong here?

So you agree they are different. Just as different as:

 I can't forget that you've forgotten.

 I can't forget what you've forgotten.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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