Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

[Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>]

CLL, Ch.13,S.3:

'Attitudinals are the part of Lojban most distant from the ``logical language'' aspect.'

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

OK, you can think of it that way.  I see it as a request for information about
your emotional (etc) state and the response a reply say "My emotional state is
,,,"  The point is that I can translate the exchange automatically from the
apparently expressive form to the propositional, so it doesn't bother me, except
for the small aesthetic issue.  I suppose, if anyone was going to work the
interrelations between Lojban and Logic, these exchanges might be a problem,
since early steps of such a process might well be shaving off or moving into
pragmatics the discursives of various sorts and so a little propositional
information might be lost.  But that ain't gonna happen, so we can go on using
the expressions despite the different interpretation.  Oh, there is the
false/insincere issue but that has little practical effect.

----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 4:31:44 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:16 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The bridiness of 'pei' and its answer is not
> a sticking point but a place where I am still uncomfortable, because it looks
> like something it is not (of course, you may think it is what it looks like
and
> I don't.

I don't see any bridiness in "pei". It has nothing to do with any
propositions. It just indicates a request from speaker to listener to
express themself in a certain scale. No bridis need be involved on the
part of either participant.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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