Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:08:02PM +0000, And Rosta wrote:
> 
> In English, logical scope tends to be ambiguous, at least within
> the same clause. So English "not A, B and C" can mean "It is not
> the case that each of A,B,C is the case" or "For each x, where x
> is one of A,B,C, it is not the case that x is the case".
> 
> Unless it has been fixed by recent BPFK action, Lojban has
> *exactly the same ambiguity* with regard to logical scope between
> elements that are not explicitly prenexed.

Show me an example please.

> (At least Lojban has the option of prenexing to eradicate
> ambiguity, but it is an option almost never used and that if often
> used would be received with opprobrium as stylistically
> objectionable.)

That last bit isn't true for me, fwiw.

-Robin

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