Re: [lojban] non-ka properties

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

2011/6/20 Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>:
> On 20 June 2011 10:01, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2011/6/20 Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ni'o
>>> A second issue, which has been in my mind since I first considered
>>> the kau approach: How does {ka broda} compare to {ka xukau broda}?
>>
>>    "ka xukau broda" Means "the property of whether or notit is
>> broda".  It's actually probably identical (or nearly so) to the
>> little-used "jei [broda]".
>>
>
> Wait, in a {jei} there is no {ce'u}.
> Anyway, the question is, isn't {ka ce'u broda}, when applied to a
> specific object, the same thing? From your own interpretation, we have
>  "the property of wether or not it is broda" vs
>  "the property of being broda"
>
> --

  Yes, those are different.  The first is a binary value, whereas the
second is simply "brodaness".  Example "mi se melbi lo mi gerku lo ka
crino" -> " my dog is beautiful  because of his greeness" "mi se melbi
lo mi gerku lo ka xukau crino" -> "my dog is beautiful because of the
state of his being-green-or-not".
                            --gejyspa

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