Re: [lojban] Gender, yet again.

[vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com>]

>>>>> The use of "gender" in that context is different than
>>>> self-identification;
>>>>> it's targeting based on gender, and that's a tanru/lujvo.
>>>>
>>>> What would you tanru/lujvo together to convey that? sevzi is
>>>> insufficient to distinguish gender identity from other kinds of
>>>> self-identification (e.g. nationality/culture); klesi and le'e likewise.
>>>> cinse is narrower, but as I've mentioned also means sexual orientation,
>>>> and to distinguish which sense is meant we again need a word that means
>>>> gender.
>>>>
>>>> (If we had a word for sex, gender could be constructed by lujvo as "sex
>>>> stereotype". But we don't.)
>>>>
>> Anyway, I'm certainly not going to say {jbepibnafei ke kulnu xarlei ke'e
>> sevzi} every time I want to talk about gender identity. If I had the
>> power to rewrite cinse, gender identity would be {cinse'i}.
>>
> 
> Good, because you'd be wrong to do so. Gender identity != genetic sex.

Did you read the rest of what I wrote? The problem I'm trying to solve
is that there aren't words that are capable of specifying the concept
"gender". Since sex was one of the nearest misses, I constructed a
phrase including it.


> (Maybe {ko'a jbena zi'o zi'o zi'o fi'o plibu ko'e})

I don't think {zi'o} is what you want here: you've said that ko'a is
born never, nowhere, and to no one, but nevertheless is born.

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