Re: [lojban] la snime blabi

[selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>]

Am 24.07.2012 17:44, schrieb Michael Turniansky:

".i ny za'u re'u pensi lo nu ta'i ma kau catra kei mu'i lo nu co'u lo nu ca'a mlerai be ro lo selgu'e cu na surla kakne ri'a lo nu jilra"

(first, I should note that on a grammatical note, genrei doesn't like it without a "boi" or "cu" between "ny" and "re'u" since they otherwise form into a single lerfu string.  jboski (online jbofi'e), OTOH, has no problem with it.  I"m not sure what the "correct" interpretation is according to the formal grammar)

It's missing a cu. As I originally said, I did not proof-read the translation, so typos like this one are expected to show up here and there.

pensi-2's are normally considered to be ideas, not events, so it should be si'o, not nu, for those who are pedantic about such stuff. 

You can think about anything. You can think about objects, events, whatever you want. Anything you can hold in your mind can be a pensi2.

But more importantly, I'm again having trouble getting the proper sense of the sentence.  I think you are trying to say that she is once again thinking about how to kill (Snow White) because she is not able to relax because  she is no longer the most beautiful in the land, due to her jealousy.  Which I guess works, but it's real hard for me to puzzle out the convolutions of the sentence due to the nested modals and tenses

It's quite straighforward for me. But I can walk you through it:

.i ny cu za'u re'u pensi lo nu ta'i ma kau catra kei
The queen (ny) again thought about how to kill (her)

mu'i lo nu co'u lo nu ca'a mlerai lo ro selgu'e
because, until she was actually the pretties of all the people in the country,

cu na surla kakne
(she) would not be able to relax

ri'a lo nu jilra
because of her envy


I could add some more pro-sumti, but they are obvious enough to me to be elided. I don't like how the na scopes over the ri'a in this sentence, so I'll fix that in the actual text.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

-- 
.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u 
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla 
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata

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