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Re: [lojban] Re: lo selsanga pe la'o dy. Bodo Wartke .dy zi'e po'u la'o dy. Liebeslied .dy



Am 16.09.2012 17:08, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
Ah, so NOW I see where you are coming from. You believe that, contrary to the CLL, "a word must never begin with a vowel", and that the denpa bu must always be a glottal stop, not just a pause. Both are contradicted by Chapter 3 of the CLL,

The CLL's view on this topic is not very coherent. The CLL simply overlooks a lot of this and is therefore outdated.

and lojban as it is actually used.

As it is used by some. Those that understand the things I'm trying to explain here (and agree with it) have already changed their way of using Lojban to make it make more sense. You are not aware of all Lojban usage out there, so this is an argument out of ignorance.

Since are talking about some theoretical language that you use, and not lojban, there is no point in continuing this discussion, as we are talking about two different languages.

If by Lojban you mean what the CLL describes, then yes, that is not a language I'm speaking and nor is anybody else I consider a good speaker of Lojban. There is no point in bringing up the CLL in matters that it clearly is either inconsistent about or that it adresses poorly. I'm sure you are aware of at least some changes that have been made to the original Language described in the CLL. Do you object to all of them because the CLL contradicts them, or do you agree with them because they actually make a lot of sense?

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

doị mèlbi mlenì'u
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ma fe la xàmpre ŭu
   .i do tìnsa càrmi
gi'e sìrji se tàrmi
   .i taị bo pu cìtka lo gràna ku

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