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Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla






On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
Jorge Llambías wrote:
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder -
LLG <lojbab@lojban.org <mailto:lojbab@lojban.org>> wrote:

    But the argument that I was responding to seems to indicate that
    anything marked with "la" is just a string being treated as a name
    with no semantic content in the same way that "zo" turns a string
    into a sumti with no semantic content.


That's basically what CLL says in Chapter 6 Section 2:

"The last descriptor of this section is “la”, which indicates that the
selbri which follows it has been dissociated from its normal meaning and
is being used as a name."

I'll have to read the context, but I think that doesn't say the same thing; it is a statement about semantics, whereas it is the grammar that has been baselined, not any semantic theory.

I'll wait for you to read the context then. 


(I still don't know what a "cmevla" is.  I know what a "cmene" is)

A cmevla is any Lojban word that ends in a consonant.

Examples of (single) cmene that are not (single) cmevla are: "la'o gy Starbucks gy", "la djan smit", "la selpa'i"

It is useful to be able to distinguish the special word form "cmevla" from the more general notion of cmene. These two concepts used to be confused when cmevla were called cmene, since not all cmene have the form of cmevla.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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