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Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)



On 01/07/2011 06:15 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
"Do you WANT cream or sugar?" vs. "Do you want CREAM or SUGAR?" would not be interpreted as having different meanings, because in the context of cream and sugar for coffee, no one would ever suggest that the customer may have one or the other but not both or neither. It would be interpreted as "This customer is hard of hearing, so I should speak louder so as to make sure he hears me correctly", which may be considered to be rude by the customer (if, for example, he isn't hard of hearing), but would not be considered an XOR question, due to contextual factors, including culture.

Sure they'd be heard as different. I've just poured your coffee. I can go back into the kitchen to fetch cream and/or sugar, or better still, I can call the waitress over to get you something for you coffee, but only if you need it. So do you want something? That's a yes/no question. It might be more helpful if you volunteered more information, but it remains a yes/no question. And for most English-speakers, it would be stressed differently. This is a pragmatics thing; stresses CAN matter.

~mark

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